[137712] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Feb 18 10:03:59 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinnQHA1cZLDhfHo1=436gXCZEA86G-vVb7rTzF2@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 06:59:09 -0800
To: Andrew Yourtchenko <ayourtch@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu, Zed Usser <zzuser@yahoo.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 18, 2011, at 3:33 AM, Andrew Yourtchenko wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Zed Usser <zzuser@yahoo.com> wrote:
>=20
>> Now correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't some kind of NAT/PAT going to =
be required to join the IPv4 and IPv6
>> domains in all foreseeable futures? If so, aren't we going to have to =
deal with these issues in any case?
>=20
> I'd compare it with borrowing some money:
>=20
> When you make NAT64 to reach from IPv6 to IPv4, you are borrowing the
> money to build a new house.
> When you make NAT444, you borrow the money to repay the debt you made
> by borrowing the previous month.
>=20
> Both are borrowing.
>=20
> Depending on the circumstances you may need both.
>=20
> cheers,
> andrew
If you are in a circumstance where you need to borrow money this month =
to repay your debt
from last month, then, generally, you are on the fast track to =
bankruptcy court or a congressional
investigation, perhaps both, depending on the size of debt snowball you =
are able to build.
In the first case, you borrow money to leverage equity and there is a =
reasonable chance that
by the time you pay off the loan, the value of what you built exceeds =
the amount borrowed.
In the second case, you end up in a lather-rinse-repeat process where =
your debt load continues
to grow and grow until it overpowers you.
It's a good analogy, but, the second form of borrowing is far worse than =
the first.
Owen
