[137534] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: SmartNet Alternatives
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christian de Larrinaga)
Wed Feb 16 03:55:13 2011
From: Christian de Larrinaga <cdel@firsthand.net>
In-Reply-To: <7083ccea-25ae-434e-9b05-234a9e8fe4a4@zimbra.network1.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:43:41 +0100
To: Randy Carpenter <rcarpen@network1.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Can anybody point to dependable analysis of the performance credentials =
on "green" (CO2/carbon neutral, recycling, etc) and financial cost =
recovery of the Internet vendors such Juniper and Cisco et al?=20
The story emerging here is not looking very encouraging.=20
Christian=20
On 13 Feb 2011, at 21:54, Randy Carpenter wrote:
>> How does Juniper feel about used hardware?
>>=20
>> ~Seth
>=20
> I love Juniper's hardware and software, and support. However, the way =
they deal with used or second hand hardware is terrible. It is not =
possible to transfer ownership at all. You can not resell anything, and =
hope to get any software updates or support. The challenge is that Cisco =
refurb with SmartNet is generally considerably cheaper than new Juniper. =
It makes it tough to sell Juniper in many situations. We have the same =
problem with NetApp. It seems that these companies would rather see =
their equipment end up in a landfill, and have the secondary market turn =
to a different vendor, rather than being responsible, and making it =
possible for equipment to be reused instead of trashed. It really annoys =
me.
>=20
> Disclaimer: I am a Juniper and NetApp partner/reseller, and love their =
stuff. I just hate their policies.
>=20
> -Randy
>=20
