[13749] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: AGIS Signing up New Spammers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Martin Hannigan)
Mon Nov 17 10:52:24 1997
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:20:57 -0800
To: Karl Denninger <karl@Mcs.Net>, Alan Barrett <apb@iafrica.com>
From: Martin Hannigan <hannigan@xcom.net>
Cc: Phil Lawlor <phil@agis.net>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <19971117080552.64019@Mars.Mcs.Net>
At 08:05 AM 17-11-97 -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:
>On Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 01:42:08PM +0201, Alan Barrett wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, Phil Lawlor wrote:
>> > To the best of my knowledge, we only blocked mailbombers. Someone here
>> > from AGIS can correct me if I am wrong.
[ snip ]
>That's all right. They blocked me too, for the same thing (one complaint
>per spam).
Me too..
>From where I sit that's nothing new, but its also ok - we reciprocated, and
>blocked a huge number of AGIS-distributed networks (basically anything that
>a spammer was connected to). Guess what? Spam volume went WAY down.
Yes, me as well, but I fat fingered it and announced a slew
of AGIS netblocks to null0 via Sprint. Got a personal phone call
from Thpamford Wallace claiming he lost thousands and
thousands of dollars, frivolous lawsuit threats, etc. etc.
[ Disclaimer: It *really* was a stupid accident - 2AM, tired not
thinking straight etc. etc. ].
Trying to stay on operational issues, I think it's bad for a
provider to block another provider unless they are being harassed
and one email isn't harassment. I guess the same argument could
be used in reverse i.e. AGIS allowed Thpamford to harass us.
Regards,
--
Martin Hannigan hannigan@xcom.net
Director of Data Networks V:617.500.0108
XCOM Technologies F:617.500.0002
Cambridge, MA http://www.xcom.net
