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Re: AGIS Signing up New Spammers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Denninger)
Mon Nov 17 09:15:42 1997

Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 08:05:52 -0600
From: Karl Denninger  <karl@Mcs.Net>
To: Alan Barrett <apb@iafrica.com>
Cc: Phil Lawlor <phil@agis.net>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.95.971117133844.246F-100000@apb.iafrica.com>; from Alan Barrett on Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 01:42:08PM +0201

On Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 01:42:08PM +0201, Alan Barrett wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, Phil Lawlor wrote:
> > To the best of my knowledge, we only blocked mailbombers.  Someone here
> > from AGIS can correct me if I am wrong.
> 
> You lie.  You blocked me.  I have never in my life sent a mailbomb.
> 
> Oh, I sent lots of complaints to AGIS, but every complaint was in response
> to spam that somebody associated with AGIS had sent me, every complaint
> required me to do a significant amount of research, and no incoming
> spam resulted in more than one complaint.  Such complaints are not
> mailbombs.
> 
> --apb (Alan Barrett)

That's all right.  They blocked me too, for the same thing (one complaint
per spam).

From where I sit that's nothing new, but its also ok - we reciprocated, and
blocked a huge number of AGIS-distributed networks (basically anything that
a spammer was connected to).  Guess what?  Spam volume went WAY down.

Heh, a few legitimate customers might have been inconvenienced, but when
abuse@[owner-of-network] bounces with a "access denied", that's all you have
left.

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