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Re: IPv6 mistakes, was: Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Cameron Byrne)
Sat Feb 12 12:37:53 2011
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1102121746460.11974@uplift.swm.pp.se>
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:37:07 -0800
From: Cameron Byrne <cb.list6@gmail.com>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrot=
e:
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2011, Thomas Habets wrote:
>
>> Really.
>
> Exactly. Can we PLEASE kill the myth that Android and iPhone has IPv6
> support for mobile side. PLEASE. None do, and there are no publically
> available roadmaps when this might happen on either OSes.
>
> There are exactly two types of devices (afaik) that support IPv6 for mobi=
le,
> and that's Nokia phones using Symbian and Maemo (afaik only N900).
>
> No other vendor has any IPv6 mobile side support, and even though Microso=
ft
> did the right thing for IPv6 on Vista and Win7, they've dropped the ball =
on
> Windows Phone 7 and have no IPv6 support there. I was very disappointed w=
hen
> I learnt that fact. I've been told it's to some extent a Qualcomm baseban=
d
> issue. There are also no USB dongles with IPv6 support that I am aware of=
.
>
I completely agree with this note from Mikael, but as Joel pointed out
and I have confirmed before, Verizon Wireless does have dual-stack USB
sticks for LTE. But it is only working on their itty bitty LTE
network ... LTE is still developing a market and the economies of
scale are not there, so things like this happen where small supply
exceeds the growing demand. I believe the chipset cost for LTE are
around $100 while they are $15 for HSPA ... (foggy memory)
But, LTE is not the issue here. GSM/UMTS/HSPA+ all support IPv6 just
as well as LTE. The issue is mobile OSs don't support IPv6 aside from
Nokia.
Mikael and I both have 3G networks with demonstrated IPv6
capabilities, perhaps people should request Google drive Android IPv6
support. Please point your IPv6 interest here
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3D3389 and comment and
try and drive the IPv6 support for mobile into Android.
Cameron
> This means that the incentive for mobile operators to support IPv6 is ver=
y
> close to zero even though a lot of them could do it fairly easily.
>
> I have native IPv6 in my Nokia N900, it works just fine within "my" own
> network, ie without roaming.
>
> --
> Mikael Abrahamsson =A0 =A0email: swmike@swm.pp.se
>
>
