[137350] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Feb 11 14:54:46 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <4D5549CA.2080409@ispalliance.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:49:43 -0800
To: Scott Helms <khelms@ispalliance.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 11, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Scott Helms wrote:
>=20
>> ISPs know it takes years to move a customer base. They should have
>> been ready years ago. They still arn't ready. I was asking for
>> what features to look for in a new CPE so that it won't need to be
>> replaced when they turn on IPv6 and got this as a answer. It really
>> isn't helpful.
> Mark,
>=20
> I certainly wasn't trying to be flip or short and for that I =
apologize. To answer the specific question on a CPE that depends both =
on what kind of access network you're connecting to as well as if its a =
service provider installed/supported device or one that a technical end =
user can support him/herself as those are very different use cases.
>=20
> The point I am trying to communicate is that CPE issue not simple, =
straightforward, or cheap because in almost all of the non-DOCSIS cases =
we're looking at forklift upgrades.
>=20
Yes, but, let's look at why that is...
The Broadband Forum sat on its ass and ignored IPv6. They failed to =
publish IPv6 standards
until November of last year.
This delayed the implementations in PON and DSL systems.
DOCSIS required forklift upgrades, too. The difference is that Cable =
Labs got out in front of the
issue and IPv6 was one of many features that required an upgrade to =
DOCSIS 3.
It's not like Broadband Forum didn't have this option.
Sorry... I have little sympathy on that one.
Owen
