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Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Thu Feb 10 19:09:46 2011

From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:07:52 +0000
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikc26OOh3qgB5YqH7uYnz64aUJhAj19MuSdK6me@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Feb 10, 2011, at 3:13 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote:

> Perhaps the RIRs  should personally and directly  ask each /8  legacy
> holder to provide
> account of  their utilization  (which portions of the allocation is
> used, how many hosts),
> and  ASK  for each  unused   /22  [or shorter]  to be returned.

I've done close: contacted each one, explained the situation, and asked=20
for whatever resources they can return to please return. This has yielded
results.  I have not asked for an account of their utilization.

> The legacy holders  might (or might not)  refuse.  They might (or
> might not)  tell the RIRs  "Hell no"
> In any case,  the  registry  should ASK   and   publish an  indication
> for each legacy /8 at least.

I asked them all.  Some have been returned, some are in progress, some
are opted to hold them to be monetized via the Specified Transfer policy.

> So the community will know which (if any)  legacy /8 holders are
> likely to be returning the community's
> IPv4 addresses  that they obtained but don't have need for.

There is likely to be another fractional /8 being returned, but not=20
much more.

> The community should also know which /8  legacy holders say  "Hell no,
> we're keeping all our /8s,
> and not telling you how much of the community's IPv4 resources we're
> actually using".

As I did not explain in advance to each to the parties that their responses=
=20
would be public, it would not be proper to publicly post the information.
Discussions with individual resource holders is treated as confidential=20
information.

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN





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