[137065] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Barak)
Tue Feb 8 21:55:14 2011
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:54:25 -0800 (PST)
From: David Barak <thegameiam@yahoo.com>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <0CFF54003CD92945994CF0C0F90D81B670647E@EXCH1-FWA1.zenetra.local>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
=0A=A0=0A>From: R. Benjamin Kessler <Ben.Kessler@zenetra.com>=0A=0A>>From: =
George Herbert [mailto:george.herbert@gmail.com] =0A=0A>>"Let's just grab 2=
/8, it's not routed on the Internet..."=0A=0A>+1=0A=0A>I was consulting for=
a financial services firm in the late '90s that was =0A>acquired by a larg=
e east-coast bank; the bank's brilliant scheme >was to =0A>renumber all new=
acquisitions *out* of RFC1918 space and into (at the time) =0A>bogon space=
.=A0 =0A>=0A=0A>If I recall, some of the arguments were "they were too big =
to fit into RFC1918 =0A>space" and by having all of their divisions in non-=
>RFC1918 space it would make =0A>it easier for them to acquire new companie=
s who used RFC1918 space internally.=0A=0A>I wonder what they're doing now.=
..=0A=0A<fireproof underwear =3D on>=0A=0AIf we make the assumption that th=
e hosts which were numbered in the space =0Aformerly known as bogon are typ=
ical enterprise hosts, it wouldn't be surprising =0Aif they were just=A0fin=
e: they probably don't *want* to have end-to-end =0Aconnectivity, and are p=
erfectly happy with the proxy-everything approach.=0A=0AIf you're going to =
NAT everything anyway, then the damage done by having 2/8 on =0Aboth sides =
of the NAT isn't any worse than having 10/8 on both sides of the =0ANAT.=A0=
If it turns out that they start running across the hosts in 2/8 as =0Acust=
omers, those can get NATted into some third block, with probably a lot less=
=0Aeffort and confusion than trying to sort out the chunks of overlapping =
10/8s.=0A=0ADavid Barak=0ANeed Geek Rock? Try The Franchise: =0Ahttp://www.=
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