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Re: quietly....

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jack Bates)
Sun Feb 6 18:00:12 2011

Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:59:48 -0600
From: Jack Bates <jbates@brightok.net>
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
In-Reply-To: <20110206224435.755439B9E0E@drugs.dv.isc.org>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On 2/6/2011 4:44 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
>
> PS3 will only be a problem if it doesn't work through double NAT
> or there is no IPv4 path available.  Homes will be dual stacked for
> the next 10 years or so even if the upstream is IPv6 only.  DS-Lite
> or similar will provide a IPv4 path.  The DS-Lite service can be
> supplied by anyone anywhere on the IPv6 Internet that has public
> IPv4 addresses.
>

I could be wrong, but I believe the PS3, like many game systems, has 
trouble with double NAT and supports end node game hosting, which will 
break with double NAT on both ends; we'll see double NAT commonly on 
both end points as we move forward if IPv4 is bothered to be supported 
for long, especially if ds-lite doesn't become more prevalent in CPEs.


Jack


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