[136865] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Weekend Gedankenexperiment - The Kill Switch
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fred Baker)
Sat Feb 5 23:30:50 2011
From: Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <4D4E0361.3060505@dcrocker.net>
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:29:44 -0800
To: dcrocker@bbiw.net
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 5, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote:
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> On 2/5/2011 6:43 AM, Fred Baker wrote:
>> On Feb 4, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Hayden Katzenellenbogen wrote:
>>> Not sure if it has been said already but wasn't one of the key point =
for
>>> the creation of the internet to create and infrastructure that would
>>> survive in the case of all out war and massive destruction. =
(strategic
>>> nuclear strikes)
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>> Urban legend, although widely believed. Someone probably made the =
observation.
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> Maybe not quite an UL...
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> <http://www.rand.org/about/history/baran.html>
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> On the average, The Rand Corp is extremely careful about what it =
publishes, yet here it is, repeating the claim.
But Len Kleinrock adamantly disputes it.
> Back in the '70s, I always heard "survive hostile battlefield =
conditions" and never heard anyone talk about comms survival of a =
nuclear event, but I wasn't in any interesting conversations, such as in =
front of funding agencies...
To survive an EMP, electronics needs some fancy circuitry. I've never =
worked with a bit of equipment that had it. It would therefore have to =
have been through path redundancy.=