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Re: Random Port Blocking at Hotels (was: Re: quietly....)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Andrews)
Sat Feb 5 21:52:40 2011

To: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
From: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
In-reply-to: Your message of "05 Feb 2011 21:06:49 CDT."
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.1102052106001.53545@joyce.lan>
Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 13:52:21 +1100
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


In message <alpine.BSF.2.00.1102052106001.53545@joyce.lan>, "John R. Levine" wr
ites:
> > I have told a hotel they need to install equipment that supports RA
> > guard as I've checked out.  This was a hotel that only offered IPv4.
> >
> > Hotels ask for feedback on their services.  If you see a fault report
> > it in writing.
> 
> Sure.  Bet you ten bucks that no hotel in North America offers IPv6 this 
> year in the wifi they provide to customers.  (Conference networks don't 
> count.)

The point I was trying to make is that hotel still needs to protect
their customers from bad actions by other customers.  Investing in
RA guard gives their current customers a better experience *now*
and is not a wasted expense as they will continue to need it when
they get IPv6 connectivity.  The alternative is to filter all IPv6
packets and remember to turn off the filter when they go to turn
on IPv6.  The RA guard can be configured to allow the hotels routers
to work when IPv6 is finally enabled on them.

Anyway it's all about educating people to be aware that they need
to purchace stuff with IPv6 in mind even if they don't yet use IPv6.
Anything bought now is likely to be used in a envionment with IPv6
enabled at some point.

Mark
> Regards,
> John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies
> ",
> Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
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