[136805] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers (was: Re: And
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Sat Feb 5 05:59:23 2011
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:57:31 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
In-Reply-To: <712D59FA-76A9-4FCB-8979-32494C98FF1B@corp.arin.net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 04:54:42PM +0000, John Curran wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Jon Lewis wrote:
>
> > My point being, the leasing of IP space to non-connectivity customers is already well established, whether it's technically permitted by the [ir]relevant RIRs. I fully expect this to continue and spread. Eventually, holders of large legacy blocks will realize they can make good money acting as an LIR, leasing portions of their unused space to people who need it and can't get it, want it and don't qualify, etc.
> >
> > These start-up LIRs won't be bound by RIR policies, both because in some cases they'll be legacy space holders with no RSA with their region's RIR, and because they won't be worried about eligibility for future RIR allocations of v4 space...because there won't be any.
>
> For the ARIN region, it would be nice to know how you'd like ARIN perform
> in the presence of such activity ("leasing" IP addresses by ISP not providing
> connectivity). It's possible that such is perfectly reasonable and to simply
> be ignored, it's also possible that such should be considered a fraudulent
> transfer and the resources reclaimed. At the end of the day, the policy is
> set by this community, and clarity over ambiguity is very helpful.
>
> Policy proposal process: https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>
> Thanks!
> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
the practice predates ARIN by many years... FWIW...
--bill
