[136773] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Feb 4 19:39:02 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <4D4C49BE.3030907@hstrauss.co.za>
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:35:29 -0800
To: Heinrich Strauss <heinrich@hstrauss.co.za>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Heinrich Strauss wrote:
> Hi, NANOG.
>=20
> Something's just struck me: every IPv4 allocation over a certain =
threshold has a monetary cost (sometimes in the tens of thousands of =
USD) and according to our RIR, the first equivalent IPv6 allocation is =
given as a freebie (to encourage migration). (Disclaimer: I'm on the =
Dark Continent of Africa)
>=20
> So once the "early" adopters migrate their networks to IPv6, there is =
no business need to maintain the IPv4 allocation and that will be =
returned to the free pool, since Business would see it as an unnecessary =
cost.
>=20
> This would seem to counteract the forced move to IPv6, since, once the =
early adopters move their services exclusively to IPv6 (or maintaining =
very small IPv4 blocks), there would be plenty of IPv4 space for the =
late adopters to request (after the RIR quarantine period, etc). =
Naturally, 6to4 functionality must remain for a while to =
interoperability reasons, so their resources would be available to the =
IPv6 world for time to come.
>=20
> Unless I'm misunderstanding the RIRs policy regarding IPv4 =
allocations; has it been stated by all RIRs that IPv4 blocks are =
unallocatable once the exhaustion phase kicks in? Or is there another =
mechanism to ensure that we don't hand out the space being handed back =
once IPv6 is the norm? :)
>=20
> Regards,
> -H.
The big providers will not be deprecating their IPv4 addresses until =
there is no longer a significant IPv4 internet.
At that time, smaller providers could probably get them, but, they will =
need IPv6 in order to talk to most of the
world.
Owen
