[136653] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: And so it ends...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Feb 3 19:35:31 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinv_RRarG4kWCzq6Pp8HhQ4zoPMDA6q4jyxkMQ0@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:33:36 -0800
To: Jeffrey Lyon <jeffrey.lyon@blacklotus.net>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Ernie Rubi <ernesto@cs.fiu.edu> wrote:
>> Um, I think that's what ARIN means when they say changing the =
registrant on a block from Entity A to Entity B means. That's =
effectively 'reclaiming'.
>>=20
>> As I understand it, I think they also contend that the 'community' =
could say to ARIN 'take back X legacy block' and that ARIN would have no =
choice but to do it if the 'community' wished it so (via policy process, =
etc).
>>=20
>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
>>=20
>>> I think what John Curran is trying to say is that ARIN does not have
>>> the authority to reclaim any space
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>=20
>=20
> Perhaps i'm missing the point, but my interpretation is that legacy
> holders are sovereign and have the same standing in the community as
> the RIR's. The only way to get that space back is to ask nicely or for
> operators to stop routing legacy space. I very seriously doubt that it
> is within ARIN's mission to form policy that directly impacts
> non-members.
Most ARIN policies directly impact non-members. The vast majority of
ARIN resource holders are non-members.
Owen
