[136534] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: And so it ends...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeffrey Lyon)
Thu Feb 3 13:03:29 2011
In-Reply-To: <B58F8E48-616E-44C8-A300-5027163C060F@queuefull.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:41:55 -0500
From: Jeffrey Lyon <jeffrey.lyon@blacklotus.net>
To: Benson Schliesser <bensons@queuefull.net>
Cc: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>, NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Benson Schliesser
<bensons@queuefull.net> wrote:
>
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:57 AM, John Curran wrote:
>
>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Benson Schliesser wrote:
>>>> Such transfers should be reported when noticed, so the resources can b=
e reclaimed and reissued.
>>>
>>> Is any RIR authorized, in a legal sense, to "reclaim" legacy address bl=
ocks that RIR didn't "issue"? =A0Without that legal authority, is any RIR p=
repared to accommodate the legal damages stemming from "reclamation"? (Does=
the RIR membership support such action, in the first place?)
>>
>> Resources are listed in the ARIN WHOIS database, which is administered p=
er policies established by the community in this region.
>>
>> Short answer: there's no shortage of authority updating that database as=
long as the community wishes it so.
>
> I respect the community-driven process and I respect that ARIN's role is =
to enforce community-developed policy. =A0From that perspective, thank you =
for your answer.
>
> But that's only valid up to a point. =A0If the community declared overwhe=
lmingly that ARIN should start clubbing random people over the head, I susp=
ect your legal counsel would take issue with that policy and ARIN would ref=
use to enforce it.
>
> Of course this is only theoretical at the moment. =A0The rubber will meet=
the road soon, now that the exhaustion phase has arrived.
>
> Cheers,
> -Benson
>
>
>
>
I'm not inclined to believe that ARIN members will collectively agree
on anything significant, so the policy process is a lot like U.S.
government (not a lot getting done).
--=20
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