[136528] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: And so it ends...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Thu Feb 3 12:47:40 2011
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: Benson Schliesser <bensons@queuefull.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 17:21:15 +0000
In-Reply-To: <B58F8E48-616E-44C8-A300-5027163C060F@queuefull.net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Benson Schliesser wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:57 AM, John Curran wrote:
>=20
>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Benson Schliesser wrote:
>>>> Such transfers should be reported when noticed, so the resources can b=
e reclaimed and reissued.
>>>=20
>>> Is any RIR authorized, in a legal sense, to "reclaim" legacy address bl=
ocks that RIR didn't "issue"? Without that legal authority, is any RIR pre=
pared to accommodate the legal damages stemming from "reclamation"? (Does t=
he RIR membership support such action, in the first place?)
>>=20
>> Resources are listed in the ARIN WHOIS database, which is administered p=
er policies established by the community in this region.
>>=20
>> Short answer: there's no shortage of authority updating that database as=
long as the community wishes it so.
>=20
> I respect the community-driven process and I respect that ARIN's role is =
to enforce community-developed policy. From that perspective, thank you fo=
r your answer.
>=20
> But that's only valid up to a point. If the community declared overwhelm=
ingly that ARIN should start clubbing random people over the head, I suspec=
t your legal counsel would take issue with that policy and ARIN would refus=
e to enforce it.
Clubbing people over the head would not get adopted by the
policy progress, since legal review is part of the process.
Reclaiming addresses that are used contrary to policy process
is already part of the number resource policy in the ARIN region,=20
has passed legal review, and has already been done on occasion.
> Of course this is only theoretical at the moment. =20
Incorrect. It's running code.
/John
