[136502] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: And so it ends...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Thu Feb 3 11:38:38 2011
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <D6E66EA6-63F7-4A85-9397-1A4122ED5E1E@queuefull.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:30:24 -0500
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:22 AM, Benson Schliesser wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Jon Lewis wrote:
>>=20
>>> The real fun's going to be over the next several years as the RIR's =
become irrelevant in the acquisition of scarce IPv4 resources...and =
things become less stable as lots of orgs rush to implement a strange =
new IP version.
>>=20
>> Supposedly[*] transfers between private entities are still supposed =
to be justified to the local RIRs. (At least that's how it works in =
ARIN's area.)
>=20
> That's what the RIR might say. But without legal authority (e.g. =
under contract, as a regulator, or through statutory authority) it is =
difficult or impossible to enforce.
You missed the [*] where I said "I know, I know...."
--=20
TTFN,
patrick
> can talk about how people "should" return addresses, or "should" =
justify transfers, etc, but we would only be begging. Transfers will =
take place outside the RIR scope, because RIR transfer/market policy =
doesn't accommodate reality.
>=20
> Or, we can fix policy..?
>=20
> Cheers,
> -Benson
>=20
>=20
