[136496] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: And so it ends...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Benson Schliesser)
Thu Feb 3 11:23:11 2011
From: Benson Schliesser <bensons@queuefull.net>
In-Reply-To: <93CFBE5F-EB2E-4889-B5B4-3056BA7A8A20@ianai.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:22:05 -0600
To: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>,
NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 3, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Jon Lewis wrote:
>=20
>> The real fun's going to be over the next several years as the RIR's =
become irrelevant in the acquisition of scarce IPv4 resources...and =
things become less stable as lots of orgs rush to implement a strange =
new IP version.
>=20
> Supposedly[*] transfers between private entities are still supposed to =
be justified to the local RIRs. (At least that's how it works in ARIN's =
area.)
That's what the RIR might say. But without legal authority (e.g. under =
contract, as a regulator, or through statutory authority) it is =
difficult or impossible to enforce.
We can talk about how people "should" return addresses, or "should" =
justify transfers, etc, but we would only be begging. Transfers will =
take place outside the RIR scope, because RIR transfer/market policy =
doesn't accommodate reality.
Or, we can fix policy..?
Cheers,
-Benson
