[136400] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: quietly....
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Feb 2 18:55:37 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <20110202221825.9EF3A970315@drugs.dv.isc.org>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:52:37 -0800
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 2, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
>=20
> In message <25915.1296675743@localhost>, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu =
writes:
>> --=3D=3D_Exmh_1296675743_5545P
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
>>=20
>> On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:30:23 EST, John Payne said:
>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:16 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
>>>> Example: if you give administrators the option of putting a router
>>>> address in a DHCP option, they will do so and some fraction of the =
time,
>>>> this will be the wrong address and things don't work. If you let =
routers
>>>> announce their presence, then it's virtually impossible that =
something
>>>> goes wrong because routers know who they are. A clear win. Of =
course it
>>>> does mean that people <gasp> have to learn something new when =
adopting
>>>> IPv6.
>>=20
>>> Is anyone else reading this and the word "condescending" _not_ =
popping
>>> into their heads?
>>=20
>> The only other charitable conclusion I can draw is "Somebody hasn't =
spent tim
>> e
>> chasing down people with misconfigured laptops on the wireless who =
are squawk
>> ing
>> RA's for 2002:"
>>=20
>> There's a *big* operational difference between "all authorized and =
properly c
>> onfigured
>> routers know who they are" and "all nodes that think they're routers =
(deluded
>> though
>> they may be) know who they are".
>=20
> Or you just filter them out in the laptop. With the proper tools you =
just
> ignore and RA's containing 2002:. Done that for years now.
>=20
That works when you're one technician on one laptop.
Now, scale that solution to 10,000 $END_USERS on 12,000 laptops running =
at
least 4 versions of at least 3 different operating systems (12 =
combinations minimum).
Really?
Owen
