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Re: quietly....

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Iljitsch van Beijnum)
Wed Feb 2 07:50:12 2011

From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
In-Reply-To: <BF8F4330-81B5-4813-AFF4-3A0379DA1921@delong.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 13:50:01 +0100
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On 2 feb 2011, at 12:39, Owen DeLong wrote:

> I would point to 6to4 and the RAs coming from Windows Laptops that =
think they are routers because someone clicked on an ICS checkbox as a =
counter example that letting things that think they are routers announce =
their presence is, in fact, proof that it is not only possible that =
something goes wrong, but, commonplace.

I didn't say they were necessarily good routers.

The issue of rogue routers and DHCP servers is a separate one. Obviously =
if you have rogue RAs but no rogue DHCPv6 then it helps if you can =
ignore the RAs and put all the info in DHCPv6. But the same bad =
practices that created rogue RAs can just as easily create rogue DHCPv6 =
servers so this is not a real solution, just very limited managing of =
symptoms.

But there's so much wrong with DHCPv6 that trying to fix it is pretty =
much useless, we need to abandon DHCP and start from scratch. Good thing =
IPv6 works just fine without DHCPv6.=


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