[136017] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: [arin-announce] ARIN Resource Certification Update
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alex Band)
Mon Jan 31 16:49:29 2011
From: Alex Band <alexb@ripe.net>
In-Reply-To: <23758.1296444328@nsa.vix.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:48:40 +0100
To: Paul Vixie <vixie@isc.org>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On 31 Jan 2011, at 04:25, Paul Vixie wrote:
> the reasoning you're describing is what we had in mind when we built =
DLV
> as an early deployment aid for DNSSEC. we had to "break stiction" =
where
> if there were no validators there would be incentive to sign, and if
> there were no signatures there would be no incentive to validate. are
> you likewise proposing the hosted solution only as an early deployment
> aid? =20
We primarily offer hosting it is something our community want. You can =
now see in the adoption numbers that is true. It makes the entry barrier =
into the system as low as possible, which =96 apart from being a good =
thing in itself =96 aids deployment.=20
> i'm really quite curious as to whether you'll continue operating
> an RPKI hosting capability even if it becomes unnec'y (as proved some
> day if many operators of all sizes demonstrate capability for =
up/down).
> if so, can you share the reasoning behind that business decision?
We're building and maintaining this with membership fees. Why would we =
keep something operational our members no longer want and need using =
their money? I sincerely doubt we'll ever get to that point soon, but =
we'll see.
-Alex Band=
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