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Re: EPC backhaul networks

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sun Jan 30 18:04:50 2011

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=_W8ybVtetdYaSB=PCpSuDQ2mzv-1BXaZuPAT7@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:02:33 -0800
To: Cameron Byrne <cb.list6@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson =
<swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Jan 2011, Cameron Byrne wrote:
>>=20
>>> The only way to reach 2000 cell sites in Chicago with 100megs of =
Ethernet
>>> handoff is with L2 metroE.  There is not a feasible L3 service =
offered
>>> today.
>>=20
>> Ah.
>>=20
>> We either rent fiber or put up our own radio links, I guess different
>> problems in different markets.
>>=20
>=20
> Yep.  I hate L2.  It is a total nightmare. But, it is literally the
> only game in town.  I blame the MEF for spreading propaganda that
> MetroEis the best solution for backhaul ... most people dont even
> think of L3 solutions.... all the telcos, cable-cos, and utilities in
> this space only do L2  to the cell site.... even though they all use
> the same Juniper and ALU gear that does L3 too ...
>=20
> Cameron
>=20
>> --
>> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se
>>=20

I know some people that are starting to refer to it as the Meth Forum.

Owen



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