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Re: Connectivity status for Egypt

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Morrow)
Fri Jan 28 11:18:30 2011

In-Reply-To: <1296200640.3123.3.camel@Decaf.NEEBU.Net>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:17:58 -0500
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: khuon@neebu.net
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Jake Khuon <khuon@neebu.net> wrote:

> I guess this begs the question of whether or not we're seeing actual
> layer1 going down or just the effects of mass BGP withdrawals. =A0Are we
> seeing lights out on fibre links or just peering sessions going down?
> Both could still point to a coordinated intentional blackout by the
> Egyptian gov't though.

out of curiousity, what's the difference though between loss of light
and peer shutdown? If the local gov't comes in and says: "Make the
internets go down", you as the op choose how to do that... NOT getting
calls from your peer for interface alarms is probably sane. You can
simply drop your routes, leave BGP running even and roll ...

If it's clear (and it seems to be) that the issue is a
nation-state-decision... implementation (how it's done, no IF it's
done) isn't really important, is it?

-chris


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