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Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Leo Bicknell)
Tue Jan 25 17:21:58 2011

Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:21:12 -0800
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org>
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In a message written on Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 05:07:16PM -0500, Valdis.Kletn=
ieks@vt.edu wrote:
> To burn through all the /48s in 100 years, we'll have to use them up
> at the rate of 89,255 *per second*.
>=20
> That implies either *really* good aggregation, or your routers having eno=
ugh
> CPU to handle the BGP churn caused by 90K new prefixes arriving on the In=
ternet
> per second.  Oh, and hot-pluggable memory, you'll need another terabyte o=
f RAM
> every few hours.  At that point, running out of prefixes is the *least* o=
f your
> worries.

If you were allocating individual /48's, perhaps.  But see, I'm a
cable company, and I want a /48 per customer, and I have a couple
of hundred thousand per pop, so I need  a /30 per pop.  Oh, and I
have a few hundred pops, and I need to be able to aggreate regionally,
so I need a /24.

By my calculations I just used 16M /48's and I did it in about 60
seconds to write a paragraph.  That's about 279,620 per second, so
I'm well above your rate.

To be serious for a moment, the problem isn't that we don't have
enough /48's, but that humans are really bad at thinking about these
big numbers.  We're going from a very constrained world with limited
aggregation (IPv4) to a world that seems very unconstrained, and
building in a lot of aggregation.  Remember the very first IPv6
addressing proposals had a fully structured address space and only
4096 ISP's at the top of the chain!

If we aggregate poorly, we can absolutely blow through all the space,
stranding it in all sorts of new and interesting ways.

--=20
       Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440
        PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/

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