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Re: Securing Border Routers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Jan 19 23:25:56 2011

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimd7o4wNop6ysJ5Ba0UTz-OOVBkrd-+wTwo5XBy@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:22:50 -0800
To: jim deleskie <deleskie@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Using non-world routable space on interfaces makes for difficulties in =
some
situations with PMTU-D and with troubleshooting (useless information in
traceroutes for example).

Owen

On Jan 19, 2011, at 6:04 PM, jim deleskie wrote:

> Never put a firewall in front of a router, it will die first.  The =
team
> CYMRU stuff is great make sure you have ACL's on your VTY and allow =
access
> only from trusted internal IPs.  I also like using non world routable =
space
> on any interface I can.
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> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Brandon Kim =
<brandon.kim@brandontek.com>wrote:
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>> What an insightful link! Thank you, I am reading it now.....
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>>> From: Bryan.Welch@arrisi.com
>>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:38:43 -0800
>>> Subject: RE: Securing Border Routers
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>>> I ALWAYS start with the CYMRU secure bgp templates, found here:
>>> =
http://www.team-cymru.org/ReadingRoom/Templates/secure-bgp-template.html
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>>> I personally would not recommend a firewall in front of your router,
>> sufficient ACL'ing should be enough for securing the router itself.
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>>> Bryan
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Brandon Kim [mailto:brandon.kim@brandontek.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:36 PM
>>> To: nanog group
>>> Subject: Securing Border Routers
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>>> Gents:
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>>> What measures do you take to protect your border routers? Our =
routers are
>> running BGP so I'm interested if there is any way to secure them =
without
>> interfering with BGP? Is it normal to put a firewall in front of the =
border
>> routers?
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>>> I'm concerned about DDOS attacks mainly....although we haven't had =
any, I
>> don't welcome them.....
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>>> Brandon
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