[135049] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: co-location and access to your server
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Kumari)
Sat Jan 15 16:46:25 2011
From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1101121544160.10560@murf.icantclick.org>
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:46:10 -0500
To: david raistrick <drais@icantclick.org>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:49 PM, david raistrick wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
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>> What is considered normal with regards to access to your co-located =
server(s)? Especially when you're just co-locating one or a few servers.
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> For less than 1 rack, or specialty racks with lockable sections (1/2 =
or 1/3 or 1/4 racks with their own doors), I'd consider any physical =
access to simply be a plus. I wouldn't expect any at all. You're not =
paying for enough space to justify the costs involved in 24x7 =
independant access, and the risks to other customers gear.
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> When you get a full rack+, or cage+, I'd expect unfettered 24x7 access =
since your gear should be seperated and secured from other folks gear.
You would think so, wouldn't you?
Many years ago I had a cage in 811 10th, with the usual pile 'o goodies =
in it... I have simple script (aka "tail -f | grep -v" ;-)) that I leave =
running in the background that tails syslog and only shows me =
"interesting" messages.
One day I notice messages scrolling by, so I go see what is grumping =
about.
Apparently the CF / PCMCIA card in one of the Cisco 7507s has just =
unmounted.
No! Wait, it's back. Nope, gone again. Back. Gone! Back! Yay! It's =
back... Whoop, I lied, gone.... still gone... still gone...
Bah, I figure that the card has just died and the appearing / =
disappearing trick was just the death rattle, so I take a wander over, =
and notice that it didn't just unmount, it's completely missing...
I manage to get one of the security folk to pull the camera footage for =
around that time and I see some chappie wanding up and down the aisles, =
looking in though the mesh at everyone's toys. After the third or forth =
circuit past our cage he suddenly perks up and hustles off camera. He =
comes back 2 minutes later with a broom and proceeds to poke the handle =
through the mesh and bang on the back of the router. Eventually he =
manages to thwack the eject button hard enough and the flash drops onto =
the floor -- he wiggles it over, slides it under the edge of the cage, =
grins like a monkey and scampers back to his cage...
I guess when you *really* needs some flash, you *really* needs some =
flash...
W
(I have also learnt the hard way not to use the edge of the cage as =
cable management...)
> Some specialty providers would be exceptions, of course (ie, I used to =
colo gear inside tv stations, satellite downlink stations, etc).
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> Telecom colo (switch and network gear in a dedicated but shared space =
for providers providing service) would be an exception, of course.
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> --
> david raistrick http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
> drais@icantclick.org http://www.expita.com/nomime.html
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