[134688] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: AltDB?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Sun Jan 9 19:34:11 2011
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: Jeff Wheeler <jsw@inconcepts.biz>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:33:18 +0000
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=H80hMMsVcChj3R5BEEhawaX7DOvT7WTV4AjDh@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jan 9, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
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> John,
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> I appreciate you taking time to respond to this while on vacation.
> However, I think we all know that your response is not a "here is how
> you tell us what to do," it's a "here is our cop-out response to make
> an incredibly simple fix either never happen, or take six months to
> make it through the ARIN process."
Jeff -=20
As it turned out, I'm back from vacation but thanks for the thought. =20
My reason for responding is simply to make sure that ARIN is doing=20
what the community wants. I won't deny that this may take some time
depending on exactly what is involved, but in my mind that is far=20
better than not fixing the situation.
> If you truly do not understand the posts regarding this matter, I will
> summarize them for you very simply:
> 1) ARIN IRR is a tool that has operational impact; service providers
> use it to build prefix-lists automatically, and if the data that
> underlies those prefix-lists is corrupted, networks that use the ARIN
> IRR will see their transit providers stop accepting their BGP
> announcements overnight. This is not a "some database might be
> inaccurate but it's okay," problem; it is an operational problem.
> Some peoples' networks depend on that data not becoming corrupted.
> Specifically, every network that uses ARIN IRR.
Thanks; I'm aware of the ARIN IRR and how operators in the community
make use of it, and have run ISPs which have made use of the data=20
for route filtering.
> ...
> I appreciate that there is a process to go through for proposing ARIN
> policy changes, etc. Your suggestion that this be used when
> addressing an operational security matter is foolish and provides
> plenty of ammo for people who say ARIN is ineffective (or worse.)
Agreed; dropping me an email is a fine process for operational
security matters. Consider this one so reported.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
