[134665] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: arin and ops fora (was Re: AltDB?)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sat Jan 8 23:58:44 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <55EF24AC-DFFC-4A84-B828-693F0A1864A9@virtualized.org>
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 20:56:07 -0800
To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
Cc: NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jan 8, 2011, at 1:15 PM, David Conrad wrote:
> Lee,
>=20
> On Jan 8, 2011, at 4:40 AM, Lee Howard wrote:
>> I think that's a bit of what we've been trying to do with the Best =
Current Operational Practices BoFs. We need a place where operators can =
discuss and document BCOPs.
>=20
> While I think BCOPs (and BCOP BoFs) are a great idea, I guess the =
question is how can folks be assured that ARIN would follow a NANOG =
community-defined BCOP relating directly to ARIN operations. For =
example, if the NANOG community were to (reasonably) say "BCOP is to use =
IETF-defined standards for publishing and accessing resource =
registration data", I'd imagine ARIN might (reasonably) disagree and =
continue down the RWS path.
>=20
> I suspect part of the issue is that ARIN is a monopoly provider of a =
variety public services that folks unrelated (directly) to ARIN must =
make use of. In other areas of public service provision, there are =
things like public utilities commissions that (in theory) ensure the =
monopoly service provider acts in the public benefit when services are =
added/changed/deleted. My impression is that the various WGs and SIGs =
in the other RIRs perform something similar to that function. There =
doesn't appear to be anything similar in the ARIN region.
>=20
> Regards,
> -drc
>=20
In ARIN, there are things like BoT elections and the BoT very much =
fulfills the role of the PUC as you describe above.
People can submit requests for operational changes to ARIN through the =
ACSP and in my experience they get a good review
and comment period by the community and the board listens to these =
things and responds appropriately. Especially if a
suggestion receives significant support, it tends to get implemented.
Owen
