[134654] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: AltDB?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Conrad)
Sat Jan 8 16:41:53 2011
From: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
In-Reply-To: <201101081739.p08HdCMR084335@mail.r-bonomi.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 11:41:42 -1000
To: Robert Bonomi <bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jan 8, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
> Let me see if I've got this right -- you think ARIN should change =
their
> policies,
Not policies. Operations. Or rather, how ARIN communicates and obtains =
buy-in from the operational community regarding operations that affect =
that community.
> but _you_ are not willing to put in any personal effort to make
> it happen, right?
Not to speak for Randy, but I believe he is suggesting the onus is on =
ARIN to engage the community their activities impact, rather than the =
community engaging ARIN.
> Can you think of any good reason why _any_ organization should care =
about
> the opinions of someone with that attitude?
Liability? Folks don't have an option regarding where they get some of =
the services.
An (imperfect) analogy: in the SF bay area, the monopoly provider of =
pipeline natural gas, PG&E, appears to have made the operational =
decision to cut costs in inspecting high risk gas lines and not upgrade =
those pipelines (despite receiving permission from the CA PUC to bill =
ratepayers for the upgrade). Pragmatically speaking, the vast majority =
of folks affected by the operation of those pipelines most likely had no =
interest in making a personal effort to ensure PG&E does what they say =
they'll do. In Sept 2009, one of those high risk pipelines exploded. I =
imagine PG&E now cares a great deal about the folks who were affected as =
you can probably already hear the class action lawsuit lawyers revving =
their engines.
Regards,
-drc