[134628] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: arin and ops fora (was: AltDB? RPKI, the universe, and ...)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Conrad)
Sat Jan 8 03:14:27 2011
From: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
In-Reply-To: <m2ipxz4zsh.wl%randy@psg.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 22:13:34 -1000
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Cc: NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Randy,
On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:31 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
> one difference in north america from the other 'regions' is that there
> is a strong and very separate operator community and forum.
Right. However, it seems to me that this strong separation has led to =
exactly the problem you raised. The issue, as far as I can tell, is that =
there are functions and services performed by ARIN that can impact the =
operational community yet even within the existing ARIN structures, =
there is no obvious (to me at least) mechanism by which the operational =
community can voice their concerns/provide input/etc. on these services =
and functions (excluding address allocation/policy of course).
> so i would be perfectly happy if arin discussed operational matters =
here
> on nanog with the rest of us ops.=20
I suspect the ambiguity of "operational matters" (and who defines what =
that is) and "discussed" will inevitably conspire to make you (and =
presumably other operators) less than "perfectly happy".=20
> i would not be pleased to see ops start to be subsumed by the rir =
here.
That's a different topic. I'm talking about some mechanism by which ARIN =
and the operational community can communicate more effectively about the =
services ARIN provides as a public service.
Regards,
-drc
