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asymmetric routes/security concerns/Fortinet

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Greg Whynott)
Fri Jan 7 12:40:39 2011

From: Greg Whynott <Greg.Whynott@oicr.on.ca>
To: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:40:32 -0500
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org



Hello,

we have multiple internet connections of which one is a research network wh=
ere many medical institutions and universities are also connected to threw =
out the country.  This research network (ORION) also has internet access bu=
t is not meant to be used as a primary path to the internet by its customer=
s.     Connected to the ORION network are many sites we exchange email with=
 daily who also have multiple internet connections.   One of these sites is=
 not reachable by us.   After investigating,  it was discovered this site i=
s dropping our connections as the path back to use would use a different in=
terface on the firewall ( a Fortinet device) than that which it arrived upo=
n.

The admins at this university claim this is by design and for security reas=
ons..   My response was the entire internet is asymmetrical and while this =
may of been a legitimate concern in the 90's,  I don't think its a real con=
cern anymore if things are set up correctly.  They suggested we add static =
routes to our equipment to address this=85  This seems like a bad idea and =
I am not comfortable adjusting my routing table to address one site's issue=
s on the internet due to their (not ours) routing/security policies.

am I correct here?  any comments on this would be greatly appreciated as I'=
ll be called into a meeting to discuss this further (they are digging in th=
eir heals in on this,  and higher ups are getting involved now).  I'd like =
to arm myself with a few perspectives.

thanks very much for your time again,

greg





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