[134422] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Cameron Byrne)
Wed Jan 5 23:09:15 2011
In-Reply-To: <3DFD6833-78C1-43D2-8074-6C89CFE3F2F3@arbor.net>
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:09:08 -0800
From: Cameron Byrne <cb.list6@gmail.com>
To: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>
Cc: Nanog Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Dobbins, Roland <rdobbins@arbor.net> wrote:
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> On Jan 6, 2011, at 9:38 AM, ML wrote:
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>> At least not without some painful rebuilds of criticals systems which ha=
ve these IPs deeply embedded in their configs.
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> They shouldn't be using IP addresses in configs, they should be using DNS=
names. =A0Time to bite the bullet and get this fixed prior to their eventu=
al forced migration to IPv6.
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Somebody should tell the nytimes.com about this being a bad practice,
many of their images are linked to ip addresses directly and will
certainly fail in the future (this year, mobile) networks that will
use NAT64/DNS64. I am sure users will find other places to view their
news when nytimes.com fails to work in these ipv6-only networks.
Small summary of the problem of IPv4 literals and how they will break
in certain IPv6 environments that will be deployed this year
http://groups.google.com/group/ipv4literals
Cameron
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http://groups.google.com/group/tmoipv6beta
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> Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.com>
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> Most software today is very much like an Egyptian pyramid, with millions
> of bricks piled on top of each other, with no structural integrity, but
> just done by brute force and thousands of slaves.
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> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-- Alan Kay
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