[134377] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: AltDB?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeff Wheeler)
Wed Jan 5 12:07:48 2011
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.1101051119460.5148@soloth.lewis.org>
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:07:44 -0500
From: Jeff Wheeler <jsw@inconcepts.biz>
To: Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org> wrote:
>> Anyone here use AltDB? It seems their servers have been down for two day=
s.
> Can anyone from Level3 say how this will impact customer BGP filters. Wil=
l
> L3 keep working with the last data sync they got from altdb? =A0I'm guess=
ing
Since Level3 updates their prefix-lists at least daily, and integrates
new ALTDB updates at least daily, and the ALTDB has been down for over
a day, obviously it will not affect your Level3 prefix-lists in the
near-term. If Level3 decided to stop honoring ALTDB objects, say,
because ALTDB was never fixed, I imagine you would find it necessary
to re-publish your objects or Level3 would stop honoring your routes.
> I'd been thinking about moving from altdb to ARIN's but hadn't had
> sufficient motivation.
I emailed ARIN yesterday to ask if their IRR database has any
authentication support (other than mail-from) yet. I haven't seen any
reply from ARIN yet, but my guess is they still have no useful
authentication mechanism. I would rather depend on an IRR database
that can't process updates for a few days per year, than use one where
a malicious party could alter or erase all of my objects at any time.
I would like to note that RADB had route6: support in about 2004 or
so, if my memory serves me; while the ARIN database did not accept
route6 objects until about a year ago. So it is not exactly a high
priority for ARIN.
Note also that Level3 has an IRR database, so you could use theirs if
you want to. I don't prefer to use a transit provider database if I
can use a "neutral" one, but sometimes I would rather not pay the
(entirely reasonable) fee for the MERIT RADB.
--=20
Jeff S Wheeler <jsw@inconcepts.biz>
Sr Network Operator=A0 /=A0 Innovative Network Concepts