[134141] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Muni Fiber Last Mile - a contrary opinion
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (George Bonser)
Sun Dec 26 21:56:42 2010
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 18:55:44 -0800
In-Reply-To: <A41F340B-217B-4065-A0BB-D5E02291E786@puck.nether.net>
From: "George Bonser" <gbonser@seven.com>
To: "Jared Mauch" <jared@puck.nether.net>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
> From: Jared Mauch=20
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 4:37 PM
> To: George Bonser
> Cc: Nathan Eisenberg; NANOG
> Subject: Re: Muni Fiber Last Mile - a contrary opinion
>=20
> You are likely already at the mercy of some local hut for your
> dialtone. Very few things home run to the co these days. It's unlikely
> any hut has more than 24 hours of battery.
>=20
> I have talked to local techs that make the same trip each shift to
fuel
> the generator during regular or minor power outages. Anything major,
> expect the service to die.
>=20
> Best bets: your state emergency operations center, hospitals,
airports,
> grocery stores and possibly hotels.
>=20
> During the northeast power outage the biggest local problem was
> inability to pump gas out of underground tanks. The margin at the
> stations is low enough it's not worth it to have generators. Best off
> having the pipeline next to you and to use natural gas/propane if your
> needs can be easily met by it.
>=20
> Jared Mauch
I am pretty lucky, the CO is about 4 blocks from the house and as far as
I can tell I'm wired directly (and the wiring was installed around 1960
and is all above ground from a box next to the CO). The local loop does
to go a box about a half block from the CO but it has no generator. It
is just jumper blocks from the looks of it when I have seen it open.
+1 on the natural gas generator, or if you heat with oil, a diesel that
feeds off the heating oil tank. Even agricultural diesel will be fine
or WVO bio-diesel. No need to pay road tax on diesel used in a
generator. Gasoline would be my last choice for a generator.
