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Re: Mastercard problems

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Morrow)
Wed Dec 8 13:47:59 2010

In-Reply-To: <4CFFC19F.2070001@brightok.net>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:47:49 -0500
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: Jack Bates <jbates@brightok.net>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Jack Bates <jbates@brightok.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 12/8/2010 11:28 AM, William McCall wrote:
>
>>
>> Are you prepared for "informaton terrorism" laws?
>>
>
>
> DOS attacks are already illegal. I question the ability to track responsible
> parties down and have appropriate proof to actually prosecute.
>
> Let's be honest. Even in the 20th century, more people had been caught by
> bragging in public than by backtracking.

so... the loic tool uses the host's local address, the attacks are all
HTTP based, or tcp/80 with malformed HTTP... someone with server logs
could certainly get a list of the ips involved and hand that over to
the FBI for proper action.

I know that the folks involved on the MC side already have this data,
and that the fbi is interested in it.

-chris


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