[133073] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: "Unlimited" wireless data...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Fri Dec 3 19:33:12 2010
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <D2067E2B-715C-447D-9CE0-5C1FF239C1EE@digitar.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 19:32:52 -0500
To: "Jason J. W. Williams" <williamsjj@digitar.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
I must once again give props to UBNT if you want awesome wireless gear =
for CLOS. For $160 or so, you can get a 60Mb/s link up (Mine is a =
~3mi/~5km link using two Nanobridge M5's)
They also have 3.65ghz gear as well but is a bit more per unit. This =
per unit cost starts to put them in the 'nearly disposable' category. =
(Oh, and it includes the dish and can do MCS-15 if your range is =
enough).
Lookup your local/private towers or buildings where you might be able to =
get space/colo cheap.
It may be easier than you think to get a reliable connection...
- Jared
On Dec 3, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Jason J. W. Williams wrote:
> I would second Nathan's experience. Tried to use them for our =
corporate office as a life boat when our T1 provider was sold to an =
outfit that didn't answer the support lines. Clear's NAT is atrocious =
and can't be turned off, so you can't drop a real firewall behind it on =
a single static.=20
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> -J
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> Jason J. W. Williams, COO/CTO
> DigiTar
> williamsjj@digitar.com
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> F: 208.322.8522
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> On Dec 3, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Nathan Eisenberg wrote:
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>>> This came up in another thread yesterday or today, and I just got =
the
>>> solicitation mailer for Clearwire's WiMAX service in Tampa Bay, =
which they
>>> call "4G", though the ITU disagrees.
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>>> The AUP is here: http://www.clear.com/legal/aup
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>> I cannot strongly enough discourage you from using their service. My =
experience with them has been consistently awful - and given that =
they're headquartered in my area, that's unacceptable. I'm informed =
that my experience is not at all unique - either to the Seattle area or =
to their service at large. Their Wikipedia article tells you pretty =
much everything you need to know.
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>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearwire
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>> Their definition of unlimited tends to be "barely acceptable =
throughput levels, until you start streaming youtube/netflix or doing a =
long-running download or using bittorrent to seed files to your work PC =
and laptop or using your VPN to retrieve a document, in which case, we =
won't turn you off, we'll just silently jail you into a 32-128kbps =
bandwidth profile. Also, have some poorly implemented NAT on our =
ludicrously underpowered CPEs!"
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>> I also understand that they've been having financial difficulties, so =
they're unlikely to address the issues their customers are faced with.
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>> If I were you, I would keep your backpack offline until another =
option is available. You're not going to be able to use VOIP on their =
service, anyways.
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>> Nathan
>> (Speaking as an individual - not as the company I work for.)
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>> !SIG:4cf9826a241136755510774!
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