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Re: Domain shut downs by Registrar?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Morrow)
Fri Dec 3 13:20:30 2010

In-Reply-To: <1180AA2A-3D91-4B58-9D15-54D37F55DC92@virtualized.org>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 13:16:52 -0500
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
Cc: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>, nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 1:10 PM, David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2010, at 5:49 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>> thanks... so, in this case, why did they take this action?
>
> When folks with guns and little sense of humor show up at your door with =
a sealed court ordered warrant relating to resources you have direct author=
ity over, would you tell them to talk to a retailer for that resource? =A0O=
h, and don't forget VeriSign has a contract (cooperative agreement? whateve=
r) involving the USG for the administration of COM/NET.
>

yup, convenient.

>> why didn't they push the action to the registrar? or did they and the re=
gistrar
>> refused to comply? (potentially because the domains weren't violating
>> a TOS?)
>
> The registrar in question (GoDaddy) claims no one came to them and they h=
ad no idea what was going on (although that didn't stop them from blaming I=
CANN).
>

ha, why does the USG insist on making things difficult? and making the
com/net/icann look like a kangaroo-court?
(or that's my perception at times...)

>> I suppose though, on the good side, we can expect the Verisign folks
>> to now shutdown other domains we bring to their attention as
>> malware/spamware/etc without protest?
>
> "Got Warrant?"

yea... so I wonder if the NCFTA folks would pony up warrants for
things like the content highlighted by www.abuse.ch ?

-chris


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