[132827] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Blocking International DNS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Conrad)
Wed Dec 1 23:20:19 2010
From: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
In-Reply-To: <03976E4A-6D24-48B5-8A98-B6B9160342C2@cs.columbia.edu>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 18:19:45 -1000
To: Steven Bellovin <smb@cs.columbia.edu>
Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Steve,
On Dec 1, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Steven Bellovin wrote:
>> Wouldn't this simply change the focus of who can attack from the USG =
(which, as far as I am aware, has not attacked the root) to some other =
government (or worse, the UN)? Given a handle, folks are going to want =
to grab it when they feel a need to control, regardless of who the folks =
are. It'd be nice to remove the handle, but that appears to be a very =
hard problem...
>>=20
> I think that the Pirate Bay announcement was triggered by
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3D131678432
Which is, of course, unrelated to ICANN (see =
http://domainincite.com/icann-had-no-role-in-seizing-torrent-domains/) =
and is a result of VeriSign following US law in the management of two of =
the top-level domains they operate.
> plus the COICA bill (http://www.eff.org/coica)
Yeah, COICA is a barrel of fun. As is LOPPSI-2 in France and the =
equivalent regulations in places like Sweden, Germany, etc.
However, my impression (but will admit not having looked into this very =
much) is that the guy from Pirate Bay is merely pissed off because he =
lost a UDRP complaint when he obtained the IFPI.COM domain after the =
International Federation of the Phonograph Industry let it expire, =
misunderstood (perhaps purposefully) what happened at VeriSign, and =
decided to capitalize on it.
> That said, I think the problem is primarily political, not technical.
Right, but that wasn't what I was questioning. I suspect that no matter =
what legal venue you put something as tasty as the "control of the DNS", =
there will be folks who will attempt to exercise that control for their =
own political purposes. Even internationalizing it doesn't seem to be a =
good idea to me (based on my impression of how politics get involved in =
places like the ITU).
I'd love to see a non-hierarchical naming system that didn't suck more =
than the DNS, but as I said, it seems that's a very hard problem...
Regards,
-drc
