[132659] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ben Butler)
Tue Nov 30 00:00:48 2010
From: Ben Butler <ben.butler@c2internet.net>
To: "'Christopher Morrow'" <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 04:58:52 +0000
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinWd7Y7eOTb6jp7nCP3DWKNW8h4AUL=1vT5EUoC@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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Hi,
I am all up for any service that is compelling enough to inspire end =
user to spend their $s to use it. Where I get super pissy is when then =
content provider blame us for impairing their product innovation and how =
the network operators are the bad guys and should spend the money to =
give the service away for free when they launch it because they cant / =
wont push the value proposition.
I do wonder who and why we are collectively upgrading our networks. At =
the end of the day we are in business to make money.
-----Original Message-----
From: christopher.morrow@gmail.com [mailto:christopher.morrow@gmail.com] =
On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow
Sent: 30 November 2010 04:46
To: Ben Butler
Cc: Patrick W. Gilmore; NANOG list
Subject: Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement =
ConcerningComcast'sActions
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Ben Butler <ben.butler@c2internet.net> =
wrote:
> Ok, you have a point with SD vs HD which is encoded at 8 rather than 2 =
on our digital terrestrial and satellite broadcasters in the UK.
>
> So why 24mb or 50mb access speeds, what is it actually being used for, =
I do not believe that streamed video is the culprit here with most =
codecs doing about ~700 kbits.
why NOT 24mb or 50mb or 500mb? what applications/innovations/ideas are
being left on the table because folk can't do them in a reasonable
period of time with <2mbps and longer queue times on their home
network? If you could provision, cheaply, more bandwidth to the
end-users in a community (or really several communities) do you think
there would be new applications or new services provided to these
folks?
Video HD or SD is just one application/service... they get lots of
hype today, but tomorrow what things may be possible?
-chris
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