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RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ben Butler)
Mon Nov 29 22:51:53 2010

From: Ben Butler <ben.butler@c2internet.net>
To: "'Steven Fischer'" <sfischer1967@gmail.com>,
	"Marshall Eubanks" <tme@americafree.tv>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 03:51:43 +0000
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikhK0CkLPa+d_RLof6wOFLu=j5BxVjbwGijZNen@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

In the Uk, we used to have 2MB DSL, and business providers like myself =
would happily provide it on the basis of CBR 2Mbit and we did'nt care =
what you did with it.  2Mbit is more than enough for streaming and I =
challenge anyone otherwise.

Then consumer broadband came along, the subs went down, the headline =
speeds went up, service delivery becomes impossible in the face of the =
marketing BS ---- and here we are.

If the subs pay =C2=A330 to =C2=A345 rather than =C2=A310 to =C2=A315 =
then this entire issue disappears.  I don't give a frig what my hosted =
clients do or my access clients do, they can run at line rate, I want =
then to get every paid for bit in the best fashion it can be delivered.  =
The problem is the access industry has allowed their sales and marketing =
people to put them in a point of no return.



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