[13205] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Justin W. Newton)
Thu Oct 30 19:31:29 1997
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 16:27:01 -0800
To: Turnando Fuad <fuad@ns.net>
From: "Justin W. Newton" <justin@priori.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.95.971030072308.20064B-100000@hornet.ns.net>
At 08:36 AM 10/30/97 -0800, Turnando Fuad wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>> > compared to (my experience of) the problem. We get spam, so do our
customers,
>> > but it's a couple of messages, each of ~500 bytes. Even on modems
connections
>> [snip]
>>
>> Because you happen to not be getting very much is no reason to believe
>> that everyone is so lucky. Anyone who has been around for any length of
>> time, posts or has posted to newsgroups, is the contact for any number
>> of domains/ASNs/netblocks, or even hosts any number of domains gets
>> bucketfuls.
>>
>> Often times, they work from old archives of Usenet as well. I've received
>> garbage forwarded from old addresses I haven't used since '92 or '93.
>>
>> It is unrealistic to believe that one's expereince is sufficeintly
>> representative to be able to generalize and define the scope of the
>> whole problem.
>>
>
>I think another question to ask is how much are we willing to spend to
>fight spam. Justin Newton(in the NANOG meeting) mentioned $400 million as
>what *all* ISPs spent to deal spam.
Actually, Vinny Bono came up with that number, not me.
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