[131939] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mans Nilsson)
Mon Nov 8 18:17:47 2010
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 00:17:18 +0100
From: Mans Nilsson <mansaxel@besserwisser.org>
To: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>
In-Reply-To: <4CD874F5.2060206@foobar.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
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Subject: Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Date: Mon, No=
v 08, 2010 at 10:08:53PM +0000 Quoting Nick Hilliard (nick@foobar.org):
> On 08/11/2010 21:51, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> > So there's empirical data that It Does Indeed Matter (at least to some
> > people). =20
=20
> Anyway, all of the arguments for it, both pro and con, have been rehashed
> on this thread. The bottom line is that for most companies, it simply
> isn't worth the effort, but that for some NRENs, it is.
And NREN-NREN traffic typically does not traverse commercial IXen.
(Even though ISTR Sunet and Nordunet having peerings configured on
Netnod). Instead, from empire-building reasons or job security or "No
research project is complete unless the professor gets a new laptop and
a wavelength to CERN (or in USA, pick a DoE site) from the project
money", NRENs build their own... I am convinced that some applications
actually benefit from this, though.
=20
> Let's move on now.
Indeed.=20
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