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Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (William Herrin)
Sun Nov 7 18:57:58 2010

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From: William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 18:57:25 -0500
To: surfer@mauigateway.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Scott Weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com> wrote:
> It's really quiet in here. =A0So, for some Friday fun let
> me whap at the hornets nest and see what happens... =A0>;-)
>
> And so, "...the first principle of our proposed new network architecture:=
 Layers are recursive."

Hi Scott,

Anyone who has bridged an ethernet via a TCP based IPSec tunnel
understands that layers are recursive.


> http://www.ionary.com/PSOC-MovingBeyondTCP.pdf

John Day has been chasing this notion long enough to write three
network stacks. If it works and isn't obviously inferior in its
operational resource consumption, where's the proof-of-concept code?

The last time this was discussed in the Routing Research Group, none
of the proponents were able to adequately describe how to build a
translation/forwarding table in the routers or whatever passes for
routers in this design.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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