[13139] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Barry Shein)
Wed Oct 29 17:44:21 1997
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 17:23:01 -0500
From: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
To: matt@planet.net.uk
Cc: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <matt-971029202951.A0117418@banana.planet.net.uk>
On October 29, 1997 at 20:29 matt@planet.net.uk (Matt Ryan) wrote:
> >
> > This sounds nice and principled but who is going to pay the bill for
> > the spam? It's non-trivial.
> >
>
> The spammers pay by hooking up with an ISP. How do your customers pay the
> recipients of their messages for them downloading them? Have you not noticed
> that email delivery is a cooperative process?
You're talking about social justice or some such basis for judging,
parity or something, I'm talking about simple business.
If the spammers don't pay their way such that it's in the interest of
my customers and myself (&c for other ISPs) to receive their messages
then they will not be effective: They will be hounded, they will be
blocked, their business format will be vilified and "spammer" will
remain synonymous with "crook" as is the case now. No decent business
will deal with them. They can keep trying to make money off of scams
and con-artists and other sewer-rats I suppose...
Very simple, really. There's absolutely no reason to bring "fair play"
into the picture when one is dealing with a band of howling jackals,
and that's all spammers are; the graffitti spray-painters of the net.
If they can present a business proposition which makes sense, then
it's merely an advertising business. As it is now they're just crooks,
kind of what shoplifters are to retail establishments, a type of
destructive parasite.
>
>
> Matt.
>
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