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Re: Spam Control Considered Harmful

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay R. Ashworth)
Tue Oct 28 18:51:49 1997

Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:32:54 -0500
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
To: David Bowie <dbowie@bbnplanet.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <34565394.51CA@bbnplanet.com>; from David Bowie <dbowie@bbnplanet.com> on Tue, Oct 28, 1997 at 04:05:24PM -0500

On Tue, Oct 28, 1997 at 04:05:24PM -0500, David Bowie wrote:
> Phil Lawlor wrote:
> > I am not a sendmail expert, but I am told that it is in the forgery area
> > that it could be improved.  Forgery and relay hijacking seem to be the
> > largest areas of abuse.  If these areas could be improved, it could go a
> > long way to solving the problem.
> > 
> 
> I tend to agree with Phil - to a point.  Nip it in the bud.  Everyone could
> use some strengthening in their AUP and it is up to each ISP to come down
> hard on those who abuse the net.  

Indeed.  As we noted last month on the topic of ingress filtering, you
have to catch this stuff on the _intake_ side, to have any real hope of
spotting the offenders.

Personally, if the spam isn't forged, and is for a real product, and
doesn't include a stupid bulkmail software ad at the top, I no longer
chase it, I just delete it.

> Ease of use, and the free flow of information must be maintained.  Fraud,
> unrepentant misuse, and theft-of-services should result in loss of access.
> Zero-tolerance, and/or a charge structure (fines?) can be levied by ISPs to
> combat the scourge.

Fines on whom?  How would you implement this?  

Cheers,
-- jra
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