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RE: Google groups outage
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Johnson)
Thu Oct 14 10:55:47 2010
From: Joe Johnson <joe@riversidecg.com>
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:42:21 -0500
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My favorite is my Droid telling me I'm not driving on a road while on one o=
f the biggest expressways in Chicago. Then, sometimes it decides to route m=
e through Kansas to get somewhere less than a mile from my house.=20
Joe Johnson
Chief Information Officer
Riverside Consulting Group, Ltd.
Innovative Technology Solutions
365 Addison Road
Riverside, Illinois 60546
Phone: 708.442.6033 x3456
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-----Original Message-----
From: JC Dill [mailto:jcdill.lists@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:28 AM
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Google groups outage
Hank Nussbacher wrote:
>
> Google Groups is the most poor managed project in Google. No one=20
> really cares much about it inside Google (my view as an external=20
> user). Go try to find some of the older Usenet postings they imported
> years ago after they bought out Dejanews. You won't find much. I've=20
> reported bugs (search function, language search, etc.) over the past 3=20
> years to them via their Groups forums and other means and basically=20
> they all end up in dev/null.
This is true for many of Google's projects. I believe it's an artifact of =
their "20%" policy. People are given work assignments on projects that Goo=
gle wants improvements on, and then in 20% of their time they can work on p=
rojects of their own choosing. I believe that many (most?) of Google's aba=
ndoned projects were 20% projects, and their supporters did the first 90%[1=
] then got bored (lazy) and moved on to something
new(er) and more exciting. I'm pretty sure Orkut and Google Groups were bo=
th 20% projects that have since been essentially abandoned.
And don't get me started on Android. The mapping and navigation software o=
n Android sucks so many different ways that I'm surprised that Google allow=
ed it out into the real world, nevermind providing it on shipping products.=
It's been this broken for over a year, so obviously there isn't anyone in=
side Google who cares to fix the obvious problems. =20
Whoever it was that developed these aps to this 90% state, has moved on to =
some new(er) and more exciting 20% project.
jc
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninety-ninety_rule
