[130750] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Network Operators Unite Against SORBS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Adams)
Tue Oct 12 13:13:24 2010
In-Reply-To: <4CB49393.9080700@spectraaccess.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:13:14 -0700
From: John Adams <jna@retina.net>
To: Bret Clark <bclark@spectraaccess.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Really the best thing to do is to just leave SORBS alone.
The more idiotic bans they put into place with demands for "$50 per IP
per incident", the less trustworthy of an RBL they become.
Most large network operations will end up ignoring them, or if they do
use the data from their RBL, they will take it at a far lower metric
in their overall anti-spam equasion.
-j
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Bret Clark <bclark@spectraaccess.com> wrot=
e:
> On 10/12/2010 12:46 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>>
>> I kinda-sortta feel like many others who have posted here. =A0This is a =
mail
>> thing, not netops. =A0Grow a pair and post under your own name. =A0Is it=
even
>> on-topic for NANOG? =A0Etc.
>>
>> I even started typing a message to the effect of: "even though I don't
>> like SORBS, they should be allowed to publish a list and let others do a=
s
>> they please". =A0But then I realized, that is all this anonymous person =
is
>> asking. =A0Or at least it could be.
>>
>> If "iHate SORBS" wants to create a (another?) list of prefixes which
>> should not be routed, and put SORBS on it, he (she?) should be allowed, =
just
>> as SORBS should be allowed to have a list of mail servers SORBS doesn't
>> like. =A0Then each operator can decide whether to implement a block base=
d on
>> the list or not. =A0Your network, your decision.
>>
>> Of course, I fully expect no one to implement the block. =A0But that is =
no
>> reason to deny the ability to create the list.
>>
>> Now, I feel like quoting Pastor Niem=F6ller so we can end this thread. :=
)
>>
>>
>
> Not to mention it's bad enough with congress trying to pass laws to make =
us
> network operators police the Internet, I don't need to police SORBS on to=
p
> of it!
> Bret
>
>
