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Re: AS11296 -- Hijacked?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Sat Oct 2 16:40:34 2010

From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: Robert Bonomi <bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 16:41:00 -0400
In-Reply-To: <201010022003.o92K3qSa029992@mail.r-bonomi.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Oct 2, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Robert Bonomi <bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com> wrote:

> That _seems_ fairly simple -- can you trace a 'continuity of ownership fr=
om
> the party that they were -originally- allocatd to to the party presently =
using
> them.  If yes, legiitmate, if no, hijacked.  With most States corporation
> records on-line, tracing corporate continuity is fairly straight foruard.
> As long as you recognize that a corpoation 'abadoned', 'dissolved' (or=20
> similar) in one state is *NOT* the 'parent' of a same-/similarly-named=20
> corporation established in another state.  And that "documents" surfacing
> 'long after' a resource-holder has 'disappeared', puporting to show a tra=
nsfer
> of those resources 'at the time of disappearance', are "highly suspect", =
and
> really require confirmation from someone who can be -independantly- verif=
ied
> as part of the 'old' organization at the time of the transfer.

Robert -

    You are matching nearly verbatim from ARIN's actual procedures for reco=
gnizing a transfer via merger or acquisition.   The problem is compounded b=
ecause often the parties appear years later, don't have access to the legal=
 documentation of the merger, and there is no "corporate" surviving entity =
to contact.   Many parties abandon these transfers mid-process, leaving us =
to wonder whether they were exactly as claimed but simply lacking needed do=
cumentation, or whether they were optimistic attempts to hijack.=20

/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN=


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