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Re: OK.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dale Drew)
Sat Oct 25 13:55:05 1997

Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 13:45:27 -0400
To: Alan Hannan <hannan@bythetrees.com>, Alex Rubenstein <alex@nac.net>
From: Dale Drew <ddrew@mci.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <19971025125015.46770@freedom.bythetrees.com>

>  Most web page access, odd-statistics gathering, and ease-of-use
>  tools with which I am familiar use ^expect^ to implement such.

One such example would be MCI's "pollem", available at
ftp://ftp.mci.net/outgoing/pollem

"pollem" is a perl script that will log into a Cisco, pull
a copy of the on-line config, and compare it with a previously
pulled config (for things like network audits, etc).  It
can be changed to execute any command that the logged in user
has privledge for.

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At 12:50 PM 10/25/97 -0400, Alan Hannan wrote:
>
>  It's my opinion first and foremost that you are not a moron.
>
>  Moreover, and keeping with the operational charter of the newsgroup, I 
>  would not recommend that folks enable r* commands on their cisco
>  routers.
>
>  When automated access is required, automating access with stored
>  passwords can be done quite handily.
>
>  While one must focus on protecting the sanctity of the stored
>  passwords, one doesn't have to focus on the security of forged r*
>  logins.  Protecting something within a host, rather than a network
>  segment, is probably simpler in this case than the converse.
>
>  $0.02.
>
>  Most web page access, odd-statistics gathering, and ease-of-use
>  tools with which I am familiar use ^expect^ to implement such.
>
>  -alan
>
>Quoting Alex Rubenstein (alex@nac.net):
>> 
>> I am a moron; I can't figure it out.
>> 
>> How do you make a cisco so that you can rsh into it (to use Mr. Kerns
>> looking glass)?
>> 
>> TIA>
>> 
>> 
>
>

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