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Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ricky Beam)
Fri Oct 1 16:00:08 2010

Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 15:59:51 -0400
To: nanog@nanog.org
From: "Ricky Beam" <jfbeam@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <B3543192-FB22-4CDC-84D0-2944EA237464@delong.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 06:45:10 -0400, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
> It's not so much a matter of whether ARIN cares or whether ARIN wants
> to do something about your issue. It's more a matter of whether ARIN
> is empowered to do anything at all about your issue.

EXACTLY.

Ron, what exactly do you expect ARIN to do?  Where is the magic wand one  
would wave to erase routes from the internet?  ARIN (in fact NO ONE) has  
no actual means to block or recend any route announcement.  Do you suggest  
they sue whomever is involved?  That won't be very fast, or even an option  
outside the US.

The only reason this sort of shit happens is because of bad network  
operators who allow it and participate in it.  Responsible operators ask  
for and verify one's rights to address space before accepting it. (AS path  
and prefix filtering can only go so far.)

--Ricky


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